The short and long-range atomic and magnetic order in BaFe12-xCoxTixO19 (x=0.4, 0.7, 0.8) and BaFe10.4Sc1.6O19 prepared by soft chemistry routes were studied and compared with parent BaFe12O19 prepared by solid-state reaction. For BaFe10.3Co0.85Ti0.85O19 neutron diffraction and magnetic measurements revealed that (Co2+, Ti4+) substitution causes significant distortions in the local oxygen surrounding of ferric cation sites, while the grain-size effect on the structural parameters is considerably smaller. The thermal expansion coefficient exhibits a strong anisotropy. The refined magnetic moments for x=0.45 and 0.7 based on the five-cation sublattice block-type collinear ferrimagnetic structure of uniaxial type known as Gorter type for BaFe12O19, are considerably lower than the theoretical spin only moments, especially for the 4e and 12k sites, indicating for x = 0.7 a local noncollinearity with short-range ordering. For x = 0.85, at 10 K a block-type conical magnetic structure sets in. For BaFe10.4Sc1.6O19, combined neutron diffraction, field-dependent 57Fe Mössbauer studies and magnetic measurements show that the collinear block-type structure remains effective at 300 K and below it down to about 190 K. In the 190 – 1.6 K range we observe a temperature dependent incommensurate complex block-type conical structure.